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Welcome to Voice of Indie, a production of Fresh Ink Group. Your hosts are Beem Weeks and Stephen Geez. This week we welcome Lieutenant Commander, USN (Ret.) Jerry Pait, and special guest Robert G. Williscroft, author of the bestselling Mac McDowell Missions. Buy Jerry's book SUBMARINE-ER: 30 YEARS OF HIJINKS& KEEPING THE FLEET AFLOAT