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A woman online called Donald Trump Xenophobic and myscogenist. She was trying to paint a bigger picture about how humanity should not be labeled into right or wrong desirables or even defined where they belong legally or illegally. She featured a man holding two children on a refugee boat in the Mid East with nowhere to go. It is either standing still or risk death again to move elsewhere. Jon and Jane get into the nitty gritty of down and dragout politics. Jon challenges Jane in ways he should not. Towards the end of the show they discuss wild rice harvesting rights of Ojibwe.